Thanks for askin', started shooting dogs about 10 years ago, got interested in trying to make smaller holes about the same time.  Live in Windom MN only 25 miles from Stan so I get the priviledge of driving up there and buggin' him when I have problems or questions.  Which is often, Stan is very patient with slow learners like me.  Had Stan build a 22-250 Imp for me this year but he put such a big tube on it that I haven't been able to get it out of the basement since I slid it down the steps to the gun cabinet.  Stan suggested an electric winch system so I'm working on that.  Like to pheasant hunt but there are NO birds in the Windom area.  Thats my story and I'm stickin' to it.  Really enjoy this forum.

Mike